Complete Prop Firm Review: Blue Guardian

Is this the Next Best 2-Stage Prop Firm?

(This post contains affiliate links. I have voluntarily chosen to spread the word about Blue Guardian because I believe it offers one of the best parameters for a prop trading challenge that you can currently find)

While FTMO has become the industry standard of prop firms for online retail trading, it’s also one of the more difficult challenges to pass with live account rules that are lackluster. You’re required to hit a 10% profit target within 30 days, followed by a second challenge round of a 5% profit target within 60 days. When you are fully funded, if you don’t have a swing account, then you are not allowed to trade news events nor hold trades overnight. But if you do have a swing account to avoid that nonsense, then it becomes really expensive to scalp with a 1:30 leverage. Their payout rate is 80% of what you return. 

Since FTMO came onto the scene a few years ago, many other prop firms have risen out of the woodwork to compete with better rules and rewards for prop traders. Some of these firms (like MyForexFunds and Funded Trading Plus) have offered slightly lower profit targets or have removed the time limit altogether. Others may have changed their rules to offer seemingly attractive offerings, but include other, less desirable restrictions such as requiring a profit percentage before you’re allowed to take your payout or a reduced limit on daily and maximum drawdown. 

Prop firms have to dance a little dance between allowing attractive trading conditions and making sure only truly profitable traders make it to a funded account. And less ethical firms make up just enough difficult rules to ensure that next to no one gets a payout but offer enough hope to keep you coming back. Therefore, we have to become conscious and diligent buyers who are committed to doing our due diligence by reading through the entire prop firm website and asking questions of help desks before signing up to take a challenge. Speaking of which, even though you are reading a review right now, don’t even think about signing up for Blue Guardian until you’ve read through their offerings and FAQ page. I’m here to distill enough information for you to get an idea of whether it’s worth your time to do more research about Blue Guardian on your own. 

I have a rule that I only promote prop firms that are ethical, reliable, and offer some kind of new benefit that the gold standard prop firms like FTMO and MyForexFunds don’t currently provide. Blue Guardian is probably the most exciting new prop firm I’ve yet to see, with much awaited improvements on standard time-limit trading conditions. 

Today, I want to share with you a prop firm that may offer not just a good deal for traders, but perhaps the BEST PROP TRADING CHALLENGE CONDITIONS I have yet to see. 

May I introduce to you, Blue Guardian.

Blue guardian prop firm ftmo

To properly examine the benefit of signing up with this relatively new and lesser known prop firm, let’s cover their challenge rules for their main and only challenge plan.

Blue Guardian offers only one style of a prop trading challenge, a two-phase, time-limit challenge, which is most comparable to FTMO and MyForexFunds. Using a $100,000 account as our example, here are the stats for their challenge requirements as of April 2023:

The trading period for phase 1 is 40 days and for phase 2 it is 80 days. (This is compared to 30 days and 60 days, respectively, for other standard 2-phase prop firms)

They require a minimum number of trading days of 5 days, but 0.01 lot sizes are allowed if the target is hit before the 5 days are up.

The require profit target for phase 1 is 8% while phase 2 is 4%.

The maximum loss for all phases, including the funded phase, is 10%, while the max daily loss for all phases is 4%. 

The account leverage is 1:100. Commission is $6 per lot. They offer options for mt4 or mt5 platforms. EA’s and trade copiers are also allowed.

The profit split for payout is 85%, while most firms only offer 65-80%. 

The fee is $517 and is refundable with the first payout.

Payouts can be requested bi-weekly, including the first two weeks you trade (other firms, like MyForexFunds make you wait a whole month for your first payout before allowing you to switch to bi-weekly payouts)

Traders can acquire up to $400,000 through challenges and may be able to scale up to $2,000,000 in funds. Their scaling plan is that a trader needs to make at least 12% within 3 months before being allowed to scale up by 30%. 

They also allow for free retries if the account is in profit by the end of the maximum time and hasn’t experienced a violation of max daily loss or max drawdown.

Overall Impression:

Blue Guardian prop challenge

 

As you can see from the above parameters, Blue Guardian blows FTMO out of the water when it comes to creating a more realistic and comfortable trading environment for the prop trader, while also creating enough of a challenge to prevent irresponsible trading styles from getting funded. 

At 85%, Blue Guardian takes the lead in offering one of the most profitable payout splits in this industry. While FTMO requires a 10% phase 1 target within 30 days, Blue Guardian requires 8% and gives you ten extra days to make it happen. While MyForexFunds requires you to wait a whole month before you can withdraw profit, Blue Guardian lets you withdraw funds within 2 weeks. They require a less expensive sign-up fee than FTMO. 

Overall, Blue Guardian is hands-down one of the best deals available for prop firm trading. I highly recommend you check them out. I don’t doubt that more third-party reports of payouts are coming soon. I know I’ll be signing up for a challenge or two, myself. I’ll be sure to report when I do! 

If you’re excited about these prop trading conditions and want to learn more, I invite you to use any of the affiliate links on this page. Again, please do your due diligence and make sure these are the trading rules and conditions that are right for you and your trading style. If you have questions, don’t be afraid to use their convenient chatbot to get your answers before you pull out your wallet. 

As always, I wish you nothing but the best of strength and luck with your trading!

 

This post contains affiliate links. I have voluntarily chosen to become an affiliate of this prop firm after doing thorough research and asking questions to a representative of Glow Node. I believe this is a quality experience for prop traders looking for a new set of challenge rules.


Finding the Diamond in the Rough

As someone who has been solely trading prop firm funds for over two years, I am a trader who is always keeping an eye out for firms that offer more realistic challenge rules and better benefits. For the most part, when I see new firms pop up, I immediately avoid all marketing material and go straight to their challenge rules and FAQ pages. If any of the rules mostly mimic FTMO, MyForexFunds (MFF), or Funded Trading Plus (FTP), I pass on the opportunity. I’m picky – I don’t want to try or recommend anything that will take advantage of traders – we both deserve better than hype and scams. FTMO, MFF, and FTP have plenty of third-party validity and exhibition of proof of payout. I only want to share and promote firms that reward traders for responsible and (realistic) profitable trading while minimizing the number of hurdles a trader needs to jump through in order to see any kind of payout.

However, when there are new offerings and features that promise a slightly easier challenge and greater payout benefits, then I dig in to learn more. I want to make sure the firm is run by professionals, has a solid business plan and team, and shows promise of continually seeking ways to offer more to the trading community. 

Today, I’m here to share with you a new diamond in the rough – Glow Node

Luckily, I don’t always need to search for new firms. Some of the best ones (Funded Trading Plus, for example) find me. Recently, a member of Glow Node, Isiah, e-mailed me to share information about their firm and affiliate opportunities. Originally established in 2022 as a trading education and indicator provider, they are now offering prop firm challenges to responsible traders.

I’ve turned down plenty of prop firms in the past because they don’t meet my criteria for offering something easier/better than FTMO, MFF, or FTP. 

Glow Node is the first, in a while, that has impressed me from the start because it does so much more than just beat the industry gold standard! In this review, I’m going to tell you why.

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Okay, Andrew, enough context, now tell us – What’s so AWESOME about Glow Node?

Alright, let’s dive in – to start, we’re going to cover Glow Node’s main account offerings and rules. Remember, I am writing a review of this firm and am expressing my own analysis and opinions. Please do your own research and inquiry by visiting www.glow-node.com and using their chatbot or contact information to get accurate and verified details. Rules and criteria frequently change in this industry, so there may come a time when what’s presented here is outdated.

ALWAYS READ THROUGH THE FAQ OF ANY PROP FIRM BEFORE SIGNING UP!

Glow Node currently offers a 2-Phase Evaluation, 1-Phase Evaluation, and Instant Funding through the brokerage firm 8-cap. 

As of 2.15.2023:

glow-node 2-phase challenge

2-Phase Evaluation

Account Sizes: $10,000 – $200,000

Cost of $100k account: $499

Profit Split: 80/20 (up to 90/10)

Phase 1 Target: 8%

Phase 2 Target: 5%

Time limit: NONE

Daily Drawdown: 5% (Relative)

Max Drawdown: 10% (Trailing)

Trading Time: Okay to trade News, Overnight, Weekends

Live Account: Same daily/max drawdown rules and no restrictions on trading time

glow-node 1 phase prop firm challenge

1-Phase Evaluation

Account Sizes: $10,000 – $100,000

Cost of $100k account: $599

Profit Split: 80/20 (up to 90/10)

Phase 1 Target: 10%

Time limit: NONE

Daily Drawdown: 4% (Relative)

Max Drawdown: 8% (Trailing)

Trading Time: Okay to trade News, Overnight, Weekends

Live Account: Same daily/max drawdown rules and no restrictions on trading time

glow-node instant funding prop firm

Instant Funding

Account Sizes: $10,000 – $100,000

Cost of $100k account: $4500 

Profit Split: 80/20 (up to 90/10)

Daily Drawdown: none

Max Drawdown: 5% (Absolute)

Trading Time: Okay to trade News, Overnight, Weekends

Other Things to Keep in Mind:

  • You can request withdrawals from the account every 14 days by contacting support
  • Be careful of news trading – if there are abnormal price movements after a news release the firm can reset your trade. Learn more under “CAN I TRADE NEWS” in Frequently Asked Questions.
  • They charge $3.50 commission per lot for Forex pairs
  • Max Leverage: 1:30 for Forex, 1:10 for indices, 1:3 for cryptocurrencies
  • You cannot hold over 30% margin during the weekend with your funded account (volatility protection) 
  • You can maintain a maximum of 3 accounts with a total of $300,000 starting balance
  • EA copy traders and bots are allowed
  • The firm offers a scaling plan, that more or less bumps up the account 30% when, over 3 months, there are 10% profits withdrawn from the challenge accounts or 15% achieved through instant funding
  • Refund of challenge fee only after achieving 15% profit

The Pros of Trading with Glow Node

Just by observing the above rules, you can already tell that there are two MAJOR features that this firm offers:

  1. No time-limit challenges
  2. Easier profit targets (compared to FTMO and Funded Trading Plus)
  3. Short-term swing-trading-friendly

I’m a huge fan of prop firms that don’t have a time limit. Responsible trading often involves placing small lot sizes and risking closer to 1% or less per trade. It’s really tough to hit 10% profit when you’re given only 20 or less days to trade (After factoring weekends and holidays). So too, anyone who relies upon higher time frames with trades held longer than a few hours often struggle to hit time-limit challenges without risking more per trade. Unless you are a scalper or have a high-return-per-trade/high win-rate, 30 day challenges are designed to psychologically trap you and lead you to failure by over-risking.

Thus, Glow Node is a fantastic option for traders who want a lot of wiggle room and freedom to hit the target when the markets (rather than the prop firm) decide. Furthermore, this is a great resource for swing traders who like the easier target of 8% profit but need more time to complete the challenge than what MyForexFunds or other time-based firms offer.

Additional Offerings – How This Firm is Positioning Itself to Grow as a Company

There are a couple of other things that make Glow Node a reliable and reputable firm beyond offering a more realistic and easier challenge. They are also preparing to launch FREE trading education for traders. Currently, the firm runs an active Discord group and offers a subscription to indicator-based signals. After a brief review of the indicator’s sales page, I am not entirely clear what the philosophy or features of this indicator entail, but the upcoming launch of their free education may explain more. 

glow-node prop firm education indicators

Now for the Cons

As I’ve explained in other prop firm reviews, while we traders may groan and moan over the variety of rules set by prop firms, at some point every prop firm needs to make a trade-off or two in order to stay profitable as a business and ensure that only consistently profitable and responsible traders make the cut. This is why you’ll see firms requiring 2-phase challenges, high profit targets, rules for lot sizes or stop losses, etc. 

However, we also want to make sure that the firms we trade with is offering ethically-sound rules and requirements. This means that responsible traders who can show consistent profit should be able to receive a payout for their work and application of solid trading skills without hassle. And when a firm promises to pay its traders, it should do so! We want to avoid challenges that require the trader to take greater risks than what’s advisable by professional trading philosophy.

Sometimes it can be tricky to determine whether rules are set for the protection of the firm or to make money off of unrealistic trading conditions. 

For Glow Node, I believe their rules are reasonable. 

The greatest con’s I see here are just standard trade-offs:

  1. The firm withholds a refund for the challenge fee until 15% profit is withdrawn
  2. The chance of resetting a trade during a news event is a problem for scalpers who trade based upon news events
  3. No more than 30% of margin can be held over the weekend – this can make trading difficult for long-term swing traders (Although it’s actually a good protection in disguise)

**Also, being a new firm, they may lack the proof of payout by individual traders that other long-standing firms do. But this is something that will change as more individuals become funded and paid.

Why these trade-offs are not a concern:

  1. The majority of prop firm income is generated from challenge fees. 

In a world where 95% of traders fail, you don’t need to guess why these challenge fees are pricey. Thus, one way a firm can make a trade off between offering relaxed rules and ensuring they still profit is to do what it can to keep the challenge fee. While the firm is making it easier to beat their challenge, staying profitable once funded is a whole other beast. Only those who are  truly consistent in profiting can hold through. Again, this is a reward for responsible traders over the long run, so I’m not too worried. You’ll just have to wait for that nice little bonus in your payout for a few weeks or months.

However, this is a trade-off – there are other firms who will return your fee to you with your first payout. But those same firms will ask that you achieve unreasonable profit within 30 days. You can pick which one works best for your style of trading.

  1. The news rule may only apply to rare occasions. 

I’m not entirely sure what the range of instances for resetting a trade include, whether it’s a highly abnormal release or just extra volatility from major economic data, like the NFP. I imagine this isn’t a concern for most traders, especially when using higher time frames. Nonetheless, be sure to contact the firm and ask more questions if news scalping is part of your main trading system. You can also stick to other firms that allow for more wiggle room around news trading.

  1. We probably shouldn’t be holding over the weekend, anyways. There’s a ton of volatility after weekend news is digested. It’s like turning your phone on after a 14-hour flight and being bombarded with text messages. The market deals with all of the changes to orders at once.

Personally, when I swing trade for prop firm accounts, I’m looking to hold a trade no longer than 1-4 days, tops, and never on the weekends. My impression of other short-term swing traders who have funded accounts is that this is their approach, too. 

However, if you are swing trading for a longer period of time, your stop loss is a lot larger than intraday traders and your position size far smaller. It’s likely that if you’re risking less than 1% per trade and you don’t hold a lot of positions, then you should be fine and this rule won’t affect you. However, be sure to contact the firm and ask more questions before deciding to sign up for a challenge. Better safe than sorry.

One last thing – I should also note that, while this isn’t necessarily a con, it can be a bit of an adjustment to go from trading with absolute drawdowns to having a trailing drawdown. If you’re used to FTMO or MyForexFunds, then you can’t go into Glow Node blindly trading with the same lot sizes and risk percentages per trade. You need to keep an eye on where your trailing drawdown is before each trading session.

I recommend dialing down your risk a notch to something like 1% or less – time is on your side and a smaller risk per trade helps take the stress out of trading when you do lose or experience losing streaks. However, if your strategy has a low win-rate but high return, then you may want to seek out a different firm as it’s likely that the trailing drawdown may catch up with you at some point.

Who Benefits The Most From Taking a Glow Node Challenge?

Okay, so now that we’ve covered the basics, pros, and cons, let’s determine who may benefit the most from trading with this firm.

Given that this is a no-time-limit challenge with a reasonable profit target, and a few rules regarding news and weekend trading with the live accounts, I think these trading styles will have the best probability of regularly receiving payouts from Glow Node:

  • Short-term swing traders – holds trades for 1-4 days
  • Day traders who trade around news events
  • Scalpers who avoid news
  • Individuals who know they can achieve 1-5% profitability per month but can’t fathom hitting 8% or 10% within 30 days
  • Folks who have failed MyForexFunds challenges due to hitting the time limit
  • Traders who are looking for educational support from their prop firm

 

Overall, this relatively new firm offers a unique set of rules and features that help responsible and patient traders make a solid living off of well-honed trading skills. I’m looking forward to trading with them in the future and seeing what their upcoming education launch has in store!

Note: This post contains MyForexFunds affiliate links. I’ve voluntarily chosen to become an affiliate of MFF because I believe they are a valid and trustworthy prop firm with some of the most reasonable challenge rules you will find in the prop trading industry!

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Over a month ago, I made an important update to the mechanical strategy I’ve used to take a couple of trades a day in the Forex markets. For a long time, I generated backtested strategies based on fixed exit points. I like using mechanical rules in my strategies, it helps me stay grounded no matter what’s going on in the market. Sometimes this approach would lead to profit, but other times it meant undergoing periods of drawdown. I constantly look for ways to learn more about Forex markets and trading, and thus decided to apply one foundational principle that I’ve always heard mentioned in the day trading community but have yet to really hone for my own use: “Let profits run”.

I came up with a mechanical, indicator-based strategy to identify opportune setups with the potential for ongoing momentum and multiple-R wins. The strategy depends on other foundational principles, such as trading with trends, sticking to simple rules and setups, and keeping losses small. After a solid backtest and a few weeks of taking the strategy live, I knew it was the best update I’ve ever made to my trading system.

In the business environment of selling trading information, there are a lot of folks who create courses and provide information freely on social media platforms, but often times there is no real proof of concept. Some folks will share singular trading day Profit/Loss amounts but fail to provide a brokerage statement for the year. Others will tout prior experience in finance roles at banks or investment firms, but again, fail to divest ongoing performance records with potential customers.

However, there are a few who can provide proof to backup their claims – you’ll see this with traders who can provide brokerage statements, third-party trade copier records, or regular screenshot updates of account balances. Another way to provide proof of concept is through prop trading challenges or trading tournaments. This latter approach has been my preferred way of showing the power behind what I teach in the Disciplined FX Scalping Course, as I only trade prop firm funds and not my own cash. 

So to show you the efficacy of this incredible strategy update, I decided to take on another prop firm challenge using only this strategy.

Why I Chose MyForexFunds

I decided to take the challenge with MyForexFunds, as I believe this is one of the best 30-day-limit challenges out there – they have a slightly easier profit target than FTMO, which is one of the prop trading world’s more popular firms, and also allow for a little more wiggle room with their drawdown limits. They also pay a small bonus for challenge phase profits. So many successful traders who have passed their challenges are providing proof of payout, putting the rest of us at ease knowing that this is a legit firm and we’ll actually get paid for our trading.

As I climb closer to my goal of acquiring $1 Million in prop firm funding (an arbitrary target based more on status of achievement rather than financial goals. It’s something I want to know I’m capable of, not necessarily something that I need), I decided to select a $200k challenge. I prefer taking challenges to acquire more funding than trying to scale an account – I rather let scaling come naturally, if at all, as it’s a slow process and sometimes more difficult to obtain than you’d think. 

So I signed up for my challenge, input my login credentials to MT4’s webplatform, and prepared to take the updated strategy for a ride. I’ve been through my share of challenges and funded accounts, and was ready to put everything I’ve learned (from both the losses and the wins) into practice.myforexfunds passed

My Trading Plan and Strategy

To pass this challenge, I decided that 1% risked per trade would be a great way to maximize profit potential without risking a quick drift to daily or maximum drawdown limits. Normally, I stick to 0.5% – 1% risked per trade on my other accounts, but for a challenge with a time limit, I believe a slightly higher risk per trade is important for making the target within 30-days (a good number of which are weekends with no trading or low liquidity). However, every strategy is different with more or less losses or opportunities to trade, so setting a fixed risk rate is highly personal and needs to be decided per case and strategy.

I make a rule of aiming for a retry if at any point during the challenge I undergo too many losses in a row. If I’m not at least halfway to profit target by 2-3 weeks into the challenge, then I’ll aim to stop once I’m above balance and begin again with the next month. This wasn’t applicable to this challenge, but I mention it as an often ignored option for those of you who are struggling to hit your profit target. This is always an option for prop trading risk management.

As per the rules of the strategy, I focused on trading trending pairs (which I would identify on one hour charts) and waiting for signals for continuation after a pullback on the 5m chart. Being on the West Coast, in Southern California, the New York session is my preferred time for short-term trades. This strategy provides clear signals for entry and exit, assuming a trend is in play. I tend to use a manual exit strategy that can let a trade run for a few hours, but there are options for fixed 2-3R or support/resistance, set-and-forget points as well. Utilizing the concept to “Let Profits Run,” I tend to see winning trades return 2-5x what’s risked. Every now and then there are rare 10-22R return trades. All I needed to do was show up, pick my pairs, and follow the rules. I figured I would take a few weeks to make strides towards the profit target amidst a few losses. What happened during this challenge was beyond anything that I ever expected.

 

One Other Crucial Tool: Learning How to Utilize Fundamental Analysis

Right before taking this challenge, there was one other important task I took upon myself. There is a piece of advice, often taught by personal development coaches and business leaders, that the best way to achieve any goal is to find out who are the best in the field and do exactly what they do to achieve phenomenal results. For us traders, this can mean following the methods of the pro’s, that is, professional-level traders who successfully manage multi-million dollar accounts or more. When you look up what an institutional trader learns and applies to trading markets, at the heart of their trading plan lies fundamental analysis. Us retail traders can argue that following is the news is unnecessary, that all information is already priced in the charts, or that there’s too much information shared only at institutions and banks that we can’t possibly be in the know – but when you ask any professional trading account manager with a track record in the industry, they will all attest to a ratio akin to this proportion: 80% Fundamentals, 20% Technicals.

For a long time I made those same retail trader assumptions: that I don’t need fundamental analysis or that I can’t possibly stay on top of all the different news and economic reports to know how to strategize fundamentals. I also convinced myself that if I want to emulate traders who have exactly what I want (funded traders managing a lot of prop firm capital and making consistent monthly returns) then I should seek to learn from these individuals and take their courses or trade in their same style. This led to spending the last few months taking different classes on supply-and-demand trading. 

But a couple of concerned thoughts were leading me to believe that even a prop-firm-trader-focus for my selection in trading education wasn’t enough. Some can get funded from a challenge but many more struggle to stay funded or still experience periods of drawdowns. Awhile back, I did an interview with an employee of The 5%ers prop firm, who told me that the only person who ever scaled up to a $1 million account through their program was an individual with a Ph.D. in Economics – utilizing fundamental analysis in his approach. Surely this fellow was able to understand market movements and forecast better than those with only technical analysis as their edge. Second, even as I attempted to learn more advanced-level approaches to trading, such as smart money concepts, or supply and demand trading, even these high return strategies couldn’t help shake an underlying anxiety of not ever really kowing why the market is moving or where it might go next. These styles of trading don’t necessarily identify what pairs to focus on and they fail to acknowledge momentous changes in direction when volatility and average daily ranges significantly change. 

Last semester, for my Ph.D. program in Business and Entrepreneurship, I took a course on global management that included foreign exchange markets as a subtopic in the study material. I chose the functions of foreign exchange markets as my research topic for my final and this was the first time I ever conducted a deep dive into academic-level research of Forex markets. Remember, the Forex market doesn’t exist just so we can play it – international businesses and monetary institutions depend on this market for changing currency when making major purchases or sales in different countries and central banks depend on it for manipulating currency value and economic health. Their participation in the market is intentional and involves objectives that extend far beyond making a profit off of swapping positions. This activity helped me develop a general sense of the various players and underlying economic reports and news that are crucial to affecting rate changes. It gave me the confidence to further learn about fundamental analysis now that I had some references to build my learning upon.

So I started to do some research on using fundamental analysis in order to profit from trading. Just as with technical analysis, there are a diverse array of systems and strategies for identifying market trends and sentiment through monitoring central bank positions, economic reports, and news. There are some professional traders who rely heavily on an Excel spreadsheet approach to tracking data across all currencies for long-term positions (this is what’s mostly taught by individuals ike notable traders, Lex van Damn and Anton Kriel) and others who take positions based upon recent news releases. Someone who does a good job explaining both the importance of fundamental analysis and how one can mentally model priority of economic levers and players, is Jarratt Davis. I highly recommend checking out his interviews and publications. His teachings helped me generate a solid understanding of the fundamentals of fundamentals.

What I got out of the information I’ve gathered thus far is that fundamental analysis can tell you what to trade and in which direction, while technical analysis is an assist to determining when to take a trade and when to exit. I’m still merely at the beginning of adding this understanding and process in my own system, but for this challenge, I decided to use economic news and central bank bias to help determine which currencies I would focus on for my daily trades. Technical analysis alone can generate a number of opportunities each day, but fundamental analysis helps focus in on the few pairs that are top priority for the big players.

In all honesty, given the number of retail traders who DON’T use fundamental analysis – I’m starting to believe that including fundamental analysis in one’s trading is a profound edge over everyone else who is trying to figure this trading thing out at home with a personal computer. Even if you use technical analysis to call the shots, doing research on the fundamentals behind currency rate trends and changes can help separate the wheat from the chaff (of which currency pairs are a priority for the banks) and nourish a sense of confidence and clarity before entering the market.

An Important Epiphany..

Before and during this challenge, I experienced an important epiphany that has occurred on every other occasion I’ve passed a prop trading challenge. I went into the challenge not hoping, but knowing I was going to pass. This wasn’t an affirmation, but perhaps an intuitive observation after having already seen the high return potential of this strategy and the added clarity of doing a little research on current market sentiment. Nonetheless, this confidence helped me stay patient, take losses without falter, and let my winning trades run even if it meant risking a large potential turn-around.

I’m curious if others who have passed their challenges have experienced this kind of resolute confidence prior to hitting the profit target, as well. If so, then this internal sensor can be an indicator of one’s preparedness for a challenge. 

There’s another saying: Scared money don’t make money.

Entering a challenge with anxiety or concern may be a sign to take a pause and do more work to show yourself your profitability prior to starting. Remember, trading is as much a mental game with oneself as it is a technical game with the markets.

 

How I Passed My $200k MyForexFunds Challenge and Verification in 2 Days.

As a recap, the objectives of the MyForexFunds funding challenges require a trader to undergo two phases. The first is a 30-day challenge requiring an 8% profit target, at least 5 days of trades, and avoidance of a daily 5% drawdown and overall 12% max drawdown. The second phase is a verification round that requires a 5% profit target, 5% daily drawdown and 12% overall drawdown avoidance, as well as up to 60 days to complete the phase with a minimum of 5 trading days.

Thus, when I exclaim that I passed the challenge and verification in 2 days, I am implying that I hit the first challenge target in one day and then proceeded to hit the verification phase target in one day. However, I also had to set some microtrades to meet the 5 trading day objective. For the first phase, I started the account with a slight drawdown but my trade that hit the profit target compensated for the amount in drawdown in addition to the 8% target. 

myforexfnds phase 1 passedmyforexfunds phase 2 passedLet’s talk about those two trades that returned 9% and 5%, respectively, while only risking 1% per trade.

The evening before I passed the challenge, the Bank of Japan announced that it would be raising its interest rates on its 10-year bonds. For the last handful of years, the Bank of Japan’s M.O. has been to keep interest rates negative so that the country can easily prop up its exports, which are a major economic boost for this South Asian country. Earlier in the month, the BOJ was giving hints that it would continue to stick to this policy of keeping interest rates low. However, on December 19th, the BOJ came out of left field and shocked the Forex markets with news that they were finally increasing bond rates. 

From a greater economic perspective, when interest rates for a country are high, this tends to increase the value of the currency, as many investors will seek to put their money in banks where they can earn a return on their investments. A higher interest rate means that the money stored in bonds, savings accounts, or certificates will all yield a higher return. As long as the underlying economy is relatively stable and safe, higher interest rates attract investors.

For the last couple of decades, the bank of Japan has manufactured a weak yen so that other countries stay interested in purchasing inexepsive imports from Japan. That is, until the end of 2022, with the looming global inflation affecting its underlying economy, as well. 

This is major Forex news. It’s the kind of rare economic event that can halt or even turn around long-term trends. With rising inflation and rising interest rates in the United States, as well as a strong reputation for the reliability of the United States economy, the USD/JPY spent most of 2021-2022 rising. However, now that the BOJ is changing its Dovish mentality to a more Hawkish one, many JPY quoted pairs are falling. 

The news came out the evening of the 19th for me, and it was definitely large enough news to keep riding on the 20th, when I woke up for the New York session. Since many other crosscurrencies are weighted on USD anyhow, I decided to stick with USD/JPY as my pair. I waited for an appropriate signal of pullback and continuation into the trend on the 5m chart and held out for a 10R trade. 

While utilizing this strategy with fundamental analysis can frequently bring strong returns, I didn’t expect a home run. It was a bit of luck and prepared opportunity to be able to ride this trade during the month I happened to take this challenge, but I am pleased with the results, all the same. 

Since I had already hit the 5 minimum trading days for this account, I was immediately granted a verification account and login details. I set this up and the following morning, December 21st, during the New York session. I continued with my 1% risk per trade and focused on the CAD inflation and CPI news that came out at 530PST. The reports showed that the actuals were about the same as expected, so the news was already priced in for this announcement. I initially got in on a NZDCAD trade but I pulled it out at break-even, as per my trading rules. 

However, at 700AM PST, a consumer sentiment report for the US came out and I kept my US30 chart open in anticipation of its release, as its hourly chart matched my technical analysis criteria. When the report came out better than expected, with additional news of a strong earnings season for Nike, I felt like there were enough catalysts to enter on this trade. Sure enough, it was a 5R win (with potential for a greater return, as per rules, but my focus was on hitting MFF’s target). Again, it was mostly luck that there happened to be two big news events leading to two highly profitable trades, but just having the insight to know what news was moving which pairs and having an exit strategy that maximized potential profit return was the perfect combo for hitting large profit targets.

funded myforexfunds

myforexfunds passed funded account 200k

Final Thoughts and Reflections

Overall, I am excited to share this news with you. I firmly believe there are multiple paths to achieving prop firm funding and staying consistently profitable – some people are excellent with supply-and-demand or SMC styles, others swear by price action and candlestick formations, and then there are folks, like me, who will stubbornly cling to indicators and other simple methods of analysis (emphasizing process and systems over a holy grail strategy) until something works well. 

The more I learn about the purpose of the Forex market from the perspectives of government, banks, and businesses, the more I believe that we’re missing the forest for the trees when we hyper-focus only on technical analysis alone. If anything, having solid confidence in the direction of a trade due to fundamentals allows us to profit even if the technicals aren’t accurate or precise. Combine this with solid money management and trade management rules and then you have a worthwhile trading system that can pass prop firm challenges and grow accounts!

 

Funded Trading Plus came onto the prop firm scene with one of the biggest benefits to taking a successful prop trading challenge: they removed the challenge time limit. 

This post contains affiliate links. I have personally chosen to promote Funded Trading Plus because I firmly believe they are a professional, realistic, and helpful prop firm with reasonable challenge rules. I am not asked to post these reviews but do so out of my own choice. 

Many firms, like FTMO or MyForexFunds, offer challenges with 30-day time limits – including full days when trading isn’t possible. 

Frankly, this is an unnecessary pressure – you’re not necessarily a better trader because you can capture profit quickly. It’s a challenge rule that typically benefits the prop firm (rather than the prop trader) because most people buckle under the pressure of needing to perform fast. 

So Funded Trading Plus offered the kind of challenges they would also want as traders, themselves – challenges without a time limit. 

Under this model, you can take as much time as you need to profit. For many traders, this means being able to risk a responsible amount per trade (closer to 1% or less, rather than the 2% standard encouraged to traders who are risking their own money). It also means that you won’t necessarily have to fail a challenge and retake it again in order to get through a less-than-stellar month for your strategy. An (unnecessary) added pressure is removed from a challenge that is already difficult, as it is. 

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Funded Trading Plus’ Challenge Offers

Now that you want to take on a prop firm challenge with FTP, you have a couple of options. The firm offers three programs: Experienced Trader, Advanced Trader, and Master Trader program. 

This article is focused on the first two options, as they are very similar yet come with different rules that may be more or less appropriate depending on your style of trading – we’ll talk about these distinctions soon. 

The third option, the Master Trader program, was recently updated as a program that offers instant funding with a 70/30%, trader/firm, profit split. This is a more expensive program than the others and does not come with any initial challenge phase. The major rule is to keep above the 5% trailing drawdown in order to maintain the account.They allow for weekly withdrawals above $50. It’s a fantastic arrangement for anyone with considerable trading experience, evidence of consistent profitability, and enough expendable income to float the initial fee.

For those who do not wish to spend more than $999 (Or $909, with a DFX discount – you can use DFX10 at checkout!), there are two other challenge options to choose from. While they may appear vastly similar, each has its own benefits for different stylese of traders. Let’s explore!

Experienced Trader Program vs. Advanced Trader Program

Seeing is believing – to start, let’s look at each program’s features, as they are displayed on FTP’s program pages, to get an idea of their similarities and differences.

Below is the Experienced Trader Program:

Key Features:

  • Single Phase, no verification phase required
  • Daily drawdown: 3%
  • Maximum Relative Drawdown: 6%
  • 10% Profit Target for scaling-up the funded account
  • No stop-loss required
  • Able to hold trades overnight and overweekend
  • Additional $12.5k option

 

Below is the Advanced Trader Program:

advanced trader program funded trading plus

Key Features:

  • Two-phase: Assessment #1 (10% target) and Assessment #2 (5% target)
  • Daily Drawdown: 5%
  • Maximum Relative Drawdown: 10%
  • 20% Profit Target for scaling-up the funded account
  • Stop-loss required for each trade
  • Do not hold trades over weekend

Both programs cost the same for their individual account sizes. Both offer MT4/MT5 accounts, offer an 80/20 profit split, allow for maximum 1:30 account leverage, and allow EA bots.

However, there are some distinct differences as well. With only one phase to complete, only a 10% profit target for scaling, and the option for over weekend trades, Experienced Trader Program seems to offer the better deal. And if that’s what you’re thinking – you’re probably right!

Let’s face it – challenges are overwhelming. Undergoing two phases, even when one has a smaller profit target, is still more challenging than undergoing only one. There are a significant number of traders who fail their second challenge with firms like MyForexFunds and FTMO. Granted, those are time-limit-based challenges, but the risk is all the same. On a psychological level, sometimes trading a prop challenge feels more stressful than trading a funded account. Perhaps it’s better to deal with only one phase.

But before we completely write off the Advanced Trader Program, let’s consider its one key benefit: The maximum and daily drawdowns are 1.66x the size of those offered by the Experienced Trader Program. 

That means for every 1% you can risk with the Experienced Trader, you could be risking up to 1.66% for Advanced Trader. 

If you’re risking 0.5% per trade, this allows you 3x the number of trades or opportunities.

So with this understanding, we can now see who might benefit from the Advanced Trader program – either individuals who are comfortable risking more per trade in order to capture bigger wins (this works best when your take profit targets vary in size with unlimited potential) or for traders who scalp multiple trades a day and would like the extra wiggle room for safety.

The Verdict: Experienced or Advanced?

Now that you understand that the one key difference between these two programs is the drawdown allowance, you should be able to discern whether this added benefit is worth the trade-off of missing out on a single-phase challenge, over-weekend trades, and half the target for scaling.

For most people, I believe the Experienced Trader Program is the better option of the two.

There are too many additional benefits that outweigh the allowances of the Advanced Trader Program. 

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Remember, you don’t need to rush the challenge by taking bigger risks on your trades or over-leveraging your account. If you want to be able to have more opportunities to scalp or trade each day, you can always cut down on your risk per trade. Risking 1% or less per trade for this challenge option is optimal. If you take more than 2 trades per day, cut that down to 0.75% or less. 

Overall, Funded Trading Plus is a professional and reliable prop firm for achieving realistic results with funded account trading. They are the only firm I go out of my way to promote, not because they sponsor my posts (they don’t), but because I firmly believe this is one of the most professional, trustworthy, and reasonable firms out there.

Funded Trading Plus is one of the few prop trading firms that offer a no-time-limit challenge model. That is, you are required to hit their profit target without hitting the max daily loss or max drawdown, but you are allowed to complete this objective with as much, or as little, time as you need. Compared to popular firms, like FTMO, which require a hefty 10% profit target reached within 30 days, a challenge without a time limit helps prevent feelings of overwhelm or the need to over-leveraged on each trade.

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Peter, one of our Disciplined FX Scalping Course and Strategy students, recently passed his first-ever prop firm challenge using the strategies and lessons taught in the modules. 

As with many other traders I’ve spoken to who have acquired prop firm funding, Peter has been trading in Forex for some considerable time – just about 5 years. (I’ll note that I’ve yet to meet a trader who has passed and maintained a funded status with less than 1.5 – 2 years experience)

Prior to coming to trading our scalping strategy, he has experienced both profits and losses, although the latter would tend to outweigh the former. 

Peter, who has been in correspondence with me since he first joined DFX, kept me up to date on his outcomes. He’s one of the most active community members in our Discord and always provides so much kind enthusiasm and critical thinking to analyzing trades and market conditions. 

He takes the strategy seriously and prioritizes process and system over meeting targeted profit outcomes. Oddly enough, this plays a big part in staying consistent. In many ambitious endeavors, like trying to become a NFL football player or an elected politician at the presidential level, focusing on numbers can help design a strategy. With trading, however, oftentimes there is a lack of control over meeting a specific, measured target, like a 10% profit return each month. Instead, as the saying goes, if you focus on the routine/strategy/following your plan – the results will take care of themselves. 

So, to get a better idea of what led Peter to this milestone success, I e-mailed him to find out what his prop trading experience was like. 

In his own words, Peter explains what’s worked for him and why a mechanical scalping strategy has been useful in passing the Funded Trading Plus challenge

What has your trading experience been like before trading the DFX Scalping Strategy?

Over the years I have had mixed results, overall losing money though.

What do you like about the DFX Scalping Strategy?

There’s a number of things I like both, directly and indirectly, related to the system.

* Firstly, I like that it works. Goes without saying, but 60% roughly win rate with >1:1 risk to reward means the system will make money.

* I like following a mechanical system with clear rules to follow. Though I do apply some discretion as to when I take trades. Having clear rules to follow allows for simplicity and consistency when trading and is quite simple to back-test.

* Further to the previous point, being able to back test the system and my chosen parameters/nuances, gives me confidence that a loss is irrelevant and I know across a week I will be profitable.

* Having a specific small set of currencies and specific windows means I’m focused and not monitoring charts and not jumping across 28 pairs plus other markets. I trade 2-3 pairs at the start of London and NY, which I have back tested so I know they work. I think this is a major retail trader mistake to have too many markets on the radar. I have all my 3 markets visible in one window and can easily see the status of a setup.

Can you describe what your trading routine is like?

About 10 minutes before London and NY open I open the charts and watch for setups. I do also have some alerts set to let me know when certain things line up. If a trade opens, I do generally monitor the trade to completion. On the weekend I backtest the week just past and compare my trades taken against the backtest results.

Have you traded a prop challenge before? What led you to decide to trade with Funded Trading Plus?

This is my first attempt at a prop challenge. I wasn’t aware of this at all until I followed the discussions in the DFX Discord. As Andrew and some of the others have experience with it I went off their advice on choice of company and to even decide to do it at all.

Describe your prop firm experience in as much (or as little) detail as you like!

I have passed the first two evaluation phases and now into a live account with FTP. 

What do you think helped you the most with passing this challenge?

As with my trading in general, confidence in the system and my implementation. Consistency in taking the correct entries as they come. Patience in waiting for entries and also waiting for the trade to complete – though occasionally I do step in.

What are your long-term trading goals/lifestyle goals you hope to achieve with trading?

My goal is to retire from 9 to 5 in the next 3 years and trade full time. My thought with the prop firm concept is to build the account(s) big enough that I can live off and build wealth through the profits.

What do you think traders need to consider or know before taking a challenge? What advice would you give to someone who has never passed a challenge before?

Ensure that you can be consistent with your trading execution and results with a personal live account with real money. Gain confidence and get used to your system(s) of choice. Then do realise there are constraints with prop firms that you could impose on your personal account to start with.

Additional note: Every weekend I backtest the past week and compare the backtest results with my trade log. It should take about 5 min a pair for two sessions a day. This has a few benefits: You can see what mistakes you may have made on trades You can see what trades you missed and why The results will give you confidence for the next week’s trading that if you follow your plan, you will get good results Be unemotional about lost trades Most importantly is to be consistent. Follow the same processes and rules every day.

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Peter shares some highly insightful and cogent points on the matter of routine and execution. Like I mentioned before, he’s highly consistent in being committed to the process of planning, executing, reviewing, and tweaking anything that can help keep the machine working smoothly. Patience and simplicity lie at the root of this system.

I’m so proud of the discipline and consistency Peter embodies and I can’t wait for his email, one day, telling me he’s experiencing the financial freedom he envisions!!

If you aren’t enrolled already, I welcome you to join us on your Forex journey by signing up for the Disciplined FX Scalping Course today! It would be an honor to provide you with a simple system and framework for your success in these turbulent times! 

 

 

 

I want to share with you my plan for my Funded Trading Plus Retry using a very short-term Swing Trading strategy, what it’s like using their new Trading View platform option, and how my challenge is going so far as I am 3 weeks into the challenge. 

After failing my first Funded Trading Plus challenge, I stepped back and took a good hard look at what I needed out of a trading style and routine.

I’ve been a scalper for the majority of my three-plus years trading both Forex and stocks, but I’ve finally come to the conclusion that higher time frames and longer holding periods for trades are far less stressful, much more convenient for my personal schedule, and often more consistently profitable over the long run.

Taking a Funded Trading Plus Retry

So a few weeks ago, after taking some time off to reflect and learn a new approach to swing trading, I decided to sign-up for my next FTP challenge.

A cool benefit about this retry is that it coincided with FTP’s release of their Trading View platform option so I signed up for a 200k account with a 10% discount- (BTW, if you also want a 10% discount off of your FTP challenge, be sure to use “DFX10” at their checkout).

Set up was very easy.

They emailed me the login info, which I could instantly use in my Trading View account. I’ll note that I have a Pro+ account with them so features like multiple partitions, saved layouts, alarms, and other benefits are already available to me. It’s possible to use Trading View’s free service with this challenge, at the very least to access their intuitive and easy-to-calculate order forms, but I personally believe it’s worth the extra cost to access more of trading view’s features and benefits.

Once logged in, the login info was saved, so I can connect without having to type in my password each time I log on. Because this password is saved to my Google Chrome, I can log on to any of my laptops or devices that access TV’s web platform.

A Daily Chart Strategy + Plan

So with this new challenge, I’ve decided to use a daily chart strategy that I’ve put together. This strategy depends on a couple of tools, like price action, Bollinger bands, fib retracement, support/resistance, among others to help me make a discretionary trading decision after the NY close of the daily candle. Let me tell you more by showing you my trading plan for this challenge:

funded trading plus strategy

Using Funded Trading Plus’ Trading View Option

Next, let’s talk about Trading View.

I am just in love with being able to directly trade off of the Trading View platform!

Nothing pisses me off about MT4/5 more than how difficult it is to use quick, pips-based order forms and install other tools and indicators.

With Trading View, everything is available in one place. The charts are clean, easy to adjust, or change the appearance of the chart, and overall it’s a pleasant experience.

My saved templates and previous markups on the charts are already there even once I signed on to the 8-cap account.

funded trading plus trading viewHowever, funded trading plus uses 8-cap as its broker, so you need to be sure to select 8-cap’s chart before setting an order on it.

Luckily, Trading View will notify you if you attempt to trade on another broker’s charts, so this is more of an annoyance than it is a problem to watch out for.

But, as with any difference in brokers, I’ve noticed that 8-caps charts often look different from Oanda’s, which I still use for my first look at the charts for the day and overall trading decisions.

As someone who is trading at the close of the NY session, I have to wait a bit after the 5 pm EST close before setting a trade, otherwise, my order will be rejected. Its markets open up again usually within 5 minutes later. The spread is sometimes good but can also be nasty, depending on the instrument, so with my strategy, I’m mostly looking to stick to major pairs or popular minor pairs in order to avoid costly spreads in the afternoon.

My First 3 Weeks

Lastly, I’m going to show you my current progress going into my fourth week of trading this challenge. I’m happy to report that it’s been a continuous upward drive the whole way through!

I’m currently up 4.22% with 10 trades overall and a 70% win rate (image was taken a day after).

funded trading plus challenge

The average win and the average loss are close to one another as I’ve chosen to close a few trades early due to a lack of evidence for continuation on certain trades.

I will say though that I am also a little trigger happy when it comes to closing trades early, and will swiftly close the trade early if there’s even a slight sign of a turnaround, so there’s a possibility that I’d have a higher balance and higher profit to loss ratio should I have held out to profit target on all of my trades. This is something I can go back to test and see if such is the case.

I will say, overall, that emotions play far less of a role in my trading now that I’m taking more relaxed and long-term trades.

The majority of my trades close within 24 hours but some will take two or three days to hit their target.

I’m spending less than 2.5 hours a week trading and it feels amazing to see such profit with very little effort and time.

I’m looking to formulate this strategy and package it up into an informative trading education course, so be on the lookout over the next couple of weeks for further updates!

Overall, I highly recommend considering Funded Trading Plus, particularly if you’re a swing trader, but really for any trading style because having no time limit on your challenge is a wealth of stress relief that could literally save you from making hasty and irresponsible trading decisions!

If you’re looking to take a FTP challenge or are already in one, please let us know how it goes, and I wholeheartedly wish you nothing but the best of strength and luck in your trading.

I’ll see you all in the markets, take care!

I Failed My FTP Challenge – Here’s What I Learned

As of last night’s Asia trading session, I failed my Funded Trading Plus challenge

How do I feel?

Actually, after almost two months of battling a drawdown, I feel pretty relieved. 

My challenge was a mess, to put it bluntly. During that time I developed worsening symptoms of my chronic illness and could no longer wake up to trade the NY session (I’m located in Southern California. The NY/London crossover officially starts at 4am here). 

So instead, I tried to trade an end-of-NY-session crossover strategy that I had used in the past but hadn’t fully backtested for post-Covid volatility. That was a dud and further drained my account. 

I also made a switch to trading during the Asia session. I tried using the trend-following strategies I teach in the Scalping course during this time and the results didn’t quite match the preferred London or NY sessions. 

Do you see the pattern in this? 

funded trading plus failed

I made far too many changes during a challenge. Shifting too quickly left me feeling a bit chaotic and I failed myself in my own discipline as I made a few trades that broke my rules amidst feelings of anxiety.

The ideal is to run your challenge with a strategy and system already in place with your discipline well intact. You should have evidence that this process is profitable before starting your challenge.

My experience with this Funded Trading Plus challenge ran against that simple formula.

So when I say I’m relieved, I imply that I feel like I received the outcome that my trading choices deserved. I’m at peace with this result. In the truest sense of the word, this was my karma for behaving like a trader going through retrograde. The way I traded over the last few months was not reflective of the practices of a responsible trader. 

Given my life circumstances, I did the best with what I had and it wasn’t enough to merit a win. 

So now that this first challenge is over, I can take time and space to reflect on the process and decide what to do next.

I intend on taking another Funded Trading Plus challenge, but not necessarily right away. FTP gives you 30 days to “reset” your account. At this time, it seems you get about 20% off of the initial fee for a retry

Even if I am not ready to trade right away, because there is no time limit to the challenge, I can sign-up again and wait to start the new challenge. I want to be sure I have evidence that I can be profitable with a new approach before attempting to take it live.

For this entire year, I’ve been thinking about taking my trading to another level. For most of my time as a Forex trader, I’ve depended on mechanical strategies and short time frames to execute scalping trades. 

While this approach helped me to develop a routine, make money, learn to follow my rules, and be procedural about trading, I’m no longer able to maintain the daily routine of a mechanical scalper. With 3+ years in the market, I feel like this next step is appropriate should I prevail as a successful trader over the long-run.

The Next Step: Learn to Trade Like a Professional

As I do more research on the kinds of trading practices kept by professional traders who have decades of experience behind them, I’ve found that about 90% of these individuals:

  • Utilize discretionary trading styles on higher time frames, such as the 1H to Daily charts. 
  • Utilize both fundamental analysis and technical analysis that accounts for the way big money hunts order flows and responds to news
  • Apply a variety of technical analysis tools to understand where to position themselves for high-probability returns: candlestick patterns, trend lines, supply and demand zones, Fibonacci retracements, etc.
  • Mostly use indicators to understand the overall market structure, not necessarily to trigger entries or exits
  • Use multi-timeframe analysis and top-down approach to understanding directional cycles
  • Apply conservative risk management standards (For example, most will risk less than 1% per trade)
  • Are buoyant and can apply analysis to any market setup

At this watershed moment, with a failed long-term prop firm challenge in my peripheral view and a vision for more consistent profitability in the future, I think it’s time to take the next step and dive deep into professional-level trading skills. 

The Beginner’s Mind

Becoming a “Beginner” again is far different 3 years into trading rather than starting out completely fresh as a new trader. There are many things that I intuitively understand from experience, such as dealing with losses, drawdowns, winning streaks, emotions while trading, etc. I’m also comfortable with trading platforms, submitting orders, reading charts, and have a general understanding of nearly every technical tool and trading approach out there.

When you’re first learning to trade, when every concept you come across is new, information overload is common. You don’t know how to prioritize information. It’s easy to decide not to learn something that feels uncomfortable.

The beauty of “starting over” when you already have experience is that you have more situational awareness and knowledge to help conceptualize difficult topics. You’re not exactly starting over, you’re merely adding more information to mental categories that are shallow in depth. 

For example, I may not know how to apply fundamental analysis to my trades just yet, but I am familiar with many economic events that drive markets, such as interest rate decisions, non-farm payroll, retail sales, etc. If I was just starting out and attempting to learn fundamental analysis, these would all be new words and concepts to learn. Instead, at this stage, I am familiar with the terms and their basic meaning – now I want to learn how they all fit together and go deeper on what their numbers entail for market sentiment. 

It’s kind of like when you’re learning a new language and you more easily remember vocabulary that sounds similar to words in your own native tongue. It’s far easier to associate already-known concepts than have to drill an entirely new concept into your head. 

So this is all to say that learning how to trade like a professional is a process. It’s not one that you can Bootcamp in six months. There’s far too much information to acquire and too many processes to practice. Dealing with your psychology is also something you can only master with experience and time. 

It’s not embarrassing for me to say that I’ve failed this challenge because I’m still relatively young in my career as a trader. I share this with you so that you can reflect on your own time in the markets and give yourself some slack if you’re not where you thought you would be by this time. Trading is not easy. If it was, more people would routinely profit. I also hope that some of you will be influenced to join me on this learning adventure, as long as you’re ready to scale your knowledge. 

My Trading To-Do List for the Next Few Months (and Even Years)

  1. Daily read books and take courses offered by professional-level traders who have a solid trading record. Some possibilities include:
    1. Anna Coulling (“Three-Dimensional Approach to Forex”)
    2. Kathy Lien (“Day Trading and Swing Trading the Currency Market”)
    3. Brent Donnelly (“The Art of Currency Trading”)
    4. Karen Foo (“Fundamentals of Currency Trading”)
    5. Research other traders who have a solid track record, are professional not only in their trading style but the way they hold themselves and conduct their Forex education business. Academic background in finance is preferred but not necessary.
  2. Find a trading approach that compliments my lifestyle
    1. Trade 1H – Daily charts for entries so I can limit my trading session to about an hour a day, in the afternoon when NY closes and I am certain to be awake
    2. Mixes fundamental analysis with technical analysis – I actually enjoy reading the news. Having a sense of why the markets are moving helps build confidence in a trade idea
  3. Find a trading mentor who I trust
    1. Ideally, this is someone who can regularly review my trading decisions and pinpoint flaws and strengths in my thinking process
    2. Is someone who has a lifestyle and approach that mirrors my own ideals (Calm, genuinely kind, values financial freedom over materialism, enjoys the art of teaching and mentoring – isn’t in it just for the money)
  4. Be more scrupulous in tracking not only my trades but also what I am doing to develop my education as a Forex trader.
    1. Sometimes it’s easy to “do more” without really learning from the experience. I want to make sure what I am learning is directly connected to trading improvement and actually has an impact on my trading over the long-run
    2. Sometimes it’s easy to not do enough or to avoid the difficult work. I want to be sure to go slow with topics that I don’t immediately understand and give myself enough time and patience to work on the tough stuff. I anticipate this being an issue with learning fundamental analysis
    3. My tracking tools can include: Trading journal (trade stats, overarching trading idea, emotions and thoughts that arise while trading, etc.); Weekly reflection of best/worst trades, what I researched and learned that week; Forex education journal (Jot down a few lines in a log each day as to what I studied, what insights I had, and how I spent my time learning)

This is merely the blueprint of what my game plan will entail as I begin again and learn new Forex strategies that may push beyond what I was comfortable doing in the past. I hope to document this process and share it with you all. I don’t doubt that some of what I come across will also benefit you in your own trading. 

Sometimes it’s the big failures that act as kindle for the fire that will light you up and motivate you to reach a new level. Whether it’s blowing up your account, failing a challenge, experiencing a major life change, or facing a long drawdown. Sometimes big problems help us open up to solutions that we might have rejected in the past, out of fear or laziness, or even the belief that we’re not capable of learning.

In the aftermath of a serious problem, one option is to stay caught up in emotions. Another is to use it as a springboard to learn deeply from the experience and make new choices. Don’t forget, you can always get value out of your failures by reflecting upon what happened, taking responsibility for your role in the outcome, and using that knowledge for your improvement. 

Sean came to Disciplined FX in 2021 with trading experience (both as a trader and a Forex educator) extending back to the 1990’s.

At this point in his trading, he had seen it all: 

  • Strategies with too many indicators
  • Strategies with unclear price action rules
  • Strategies that focused only on the London session

But while working in IT and needing to manage the duties of a full-time job alongside a trading account, he ran into issues following the majority of strategies that require spending hours of the day or night looking for set-ups. 

He was looking for a strategy that was consistent, sturdy enough to grow an account or pass a trading challenge, but only involved one or two trades per day, if that. He also wanted to be able to trade during the New York session, which better suited his schedule.

Sean tested and went live with the Disciplined FX Scalping Strategy with the intention of becoming a funded trader so that he can eventually leave the corporate world and have an independent life.

What Sean likes about the DFX Scalping Strategy and trading methodology:

  • The strategy is simplified, focuses on basic pairs
  • The trading rules are clear
  • He could continue trading the 5m chart, the timeframe he’s used for years
  • The strategy works
  • The Discord group is friendly and helpful

In the Spring of 2022, Sean signed up for his first prop trading challenge with Fidelcrest. This included a two-part challenge, with the first part requiring a 10% profit and the second part requiring another 10% profit, before becoming fully funded. 

Using the once-per-day DFX Scalping Strategy on the AUD/USD (plus a couple of trades off the EUR/USD), Sean not only passed both the challenge and verification round for his first $50k funded account…

He also passed a SECOND challenge. 

We were so excited to see his post in our Discord group:

fidelcrest challenge passed

After a very enticing and fun 2-hour video chat together, Sean shared with me some of the most important factors that led to his passing multiple prop trading challenges. While prior experience and long-standing discipline with trading helped him follow the strategy to a “T”, he also mentioned these important points that ultimately led him to become a funded trader:

Tips for Becoming a Funded Trader:

  1. Be patient – It’s not helpful to try to force something, be it a trade or a strategy. It’s far better to wait and let the process unfold
  2. Be stable – Stick to the strategy and process. If a signal is missed or if you’re in a hurry, don’t take the trade. (Insight: Stable trading feels boring! Shouldn’t be flying off the handle, on edge, etc.)
  3. Make your own decisions – Trading needs to be about you and your decisions, as well as your confidence and preferred setup. You don’t need to listen to someone for your trades or get caught up in what other people are doing. Stick with what works for you.
  4. Be consistent – If your strategy requires you to be in front of the charts at a certain hour each day, you need to make sure you show up every day. Don’t miss a session.
  5. Don’t waste time licking your wounds – Never get caught up in one trade, short losing streaks can turn around. Just make sure you’re coming to the next session when you’re rested and have a new mindset.

Trading for profit is no joke. Trading to pass a challenge is an even greater feat. Yet not an impossible one. Sean is an exemplary trader and his results are a reminder of the payoff that comes with persistence and patience when trading over the long term. We’re very lucky to have him in the DFX community!

 

I’m excited to share with you all today that it happened again!

I passed a second FTMO challenge – this time with a 100k account, using only the Discipline FX Scalping Strategy as taught in the Disciplined FX Scalping Strategy Course.

I was able to pass a challenge with 10 trades over 7 days using a mechanical strategy. This strategy had an 80% win rate and returns 1.4 times your risk for each winning trade.

This challenge was a free retry after deciding to wait on last month’s challenge as my strategy took an unexpected dip and with the holidays approaching, I didn’t want to chance it turning around.

So let’s go over some stats of this experience:

  • There were 10 trades one of which was a mistake trade that got a little profit on another was just to capture a trading day – so really there were eight trades.
  • The average profit was about $1672 and the average loss was $1588
  • I took a couple of trades with E/J but basically, almost every single trade was with the A/U

Now, these were all scalping trades. I don’t think there was a single trade that returned more than maybe 16 pips – and while that may seem like nothing, and it may seem like that it must be on a 1m chart or 5m chart, this was actually on a 15m chart and these trades could sometimes last as few as 10 minutes or as long as a couple of hours.

That’s actually why I like Forex – it’s a slower-paced market compared to waking up and scalping stocks

FTMO verification passed

Let’s talk about risk

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As with my last challenge that I passed, I used a variation in risk as the account increased.

So I started out with a 1.4 percent risk per trade. Once I hit that three percent gain mark, I bumped it up to two percent, and then for one trade, I took a 2.5 percent risk for that trade. since that got me up close to the profit target, I then decided to dial it back down to 1.4 risk in case there would be losses so that I can stay up in this profit range.

And then for my last trade, I took 1.1 percent risk on that trade where if I hadn’t won that trade I could go back to risking maybe something up to 2% where I wouldn’t feel uncomfortable in taking that risk because I had already risked those percentages before.

So it kept me in a comfy zone where, knowing my stats about this trade, I know it’s has a higher win rate than a higher return so I was willing to take a bet that within three trades I’d be able to hit the profit target so by risking less as I got closer I would just keep re-measuring how much money do I need to hit target and risk according to that 1.4 ratio return.

Prop Trading Psychology

This is a huge part of what will lead you able to stick with a risk management strategy or your trading strategy and I will say every time I take a challenge, while my discipline’s rock-solid, I have my moments. It is so easy to want to move take profit targets or take out a trade early to be sure to capture a win. That’s the one inconsistency that I run into when prop trading, although it didn’t happen this time.

I think going in with a strategy that has a high win rate helped to appease some of the anxiety around trading for a challenge that has a time limit.

Now if I was trading something like five percenters or a new firm which I’m going to tell you all about, called funded traders plus, these two have very realistic time limits on taking the challenge, I’d have stuck to a certain risk percent, like 0.5 or 0.75%. These longer-term challenge models are less stressful.

Let’s Talk About Risk Management Models

So I have 3 that I want to share with you. I’ve used them all before for different accounts, strategies, and challenges.

Steady

it’s basically as it sounds – you’re using the same percent risk per trade on every trade. if you’re trading something more short-term, like FTMO, you might have to bump this up a bit to make sure you hit that profit target – it could be taking 1% per trade or 1.5% per trade, or 2% per trade.

It helps to know the stats of your strategy. This is why I like mechanical strategies because I can pull so much data from them than discretionary ones. Because with discretionary trading, you never know if you’re not going to take the trade when it comes down to game time.

So at least with mechanical strategies, I can run many different stats on them (What days of the week perform better than others, what % likelihood a trade will turn around and profit after starting out in deficit, etc.)- I think some of you guys know I’m a Ph.D. student (so researching variables is my bread and butter)!

So if you know your drawdown, as well as an average return for the month, you can adjust your risk per trade to fit your strategy, while also being mindful of the 5% daily drawdown, 10%  total drawdown, and the 10% target that you need to hit so that could end up being 1-2% risk per trade.

Scaled

The second approach is a scaled model – this is what I use for this challenge where you might want to designate something like a low, medium, and high risk.

I started out with what I consider medium: 1.4% per trade.

Once I hit that 3% target getting into this profitable zone, I bumped it up to two percent and I was willing, if the balance went down, to go back to 1.4% risk per trade.

And if it went under, such as going into a significant drawdown, like down 5%, I would consider going down to 1% risk per trade or less.

Such was not the case – Instead, the count continued to grow. Once I got into that middle zone of over 5% return, I was willing to take a 2.5% risk on that next trade – it ended up being a win and that bumped me up close to the profit target.

That’s when I moved down to a low risk, so that was back to 1.4% and then after that trade, I just kept measuring how much money I needed to hit the profit target. Then I would risk accordingly. (Target – current balance –> divide by 1.4, and that’s what I’d risk on the next trade [this was usually under 1.4%])

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Market Dependent Model

The last model I’ll name here is what I’m going to call the market-dependent model of risking according to what you see.

So this would be better for someone who is using a discretionary strategy or knows enough about their mechanical strategy to say how it performs in different types of markets.

If it’s a more volatile market you may want to risk more or less depending on what you see and how your strategy performs in that kind of market.

I think this last approach is what professional traders usually use, (but then again they aren’t necessarily trading for a challenge)

 

So any of these three models can work – there’s no one good choice.

you have to know what works for your strategy – this is why I highly recommend backtesting to really get to know what your strategy is. Define the parameters of your strategy instead of saying you’ll just trade triangles. Get to know stats by backtesting.

To sum this up, the next step for me is verification. That has a 5% target instead of 10%. I’ll probably risk the same way I’m risking now with the scaled model – but maybe dial it back a bit. I could also take the full 60 days and just take a steady, small percent risk per trade.

If I pass that too, then going into a funded account I am planning on risking tiny and I’m expecting tiny targets.

I will be happy to stop trading for the month once I hit a 3% return.

but that will be for a later post. For now, I’m happy to celebrate this win and share it with you!

Welcome back to the Disciplined FX blog – my name is Andrew Bloom and if you haven’t met me before, I am a Ph.D. student in the field of business with a concentration in entrepreneurship and I’ve been a day trader for about four to five years and a day trader of forex markets for about 2-3 years. I also started Disciplined FX last year to help teach traders from all walks of life how to become profitable in forex markets while focusing on building habits that support discipline and using mechanical trading in order to develop that routine mindset when you’re actually in front of the charts.

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So I’m going to make a guess as to why you’re here today – I’m going to wager that you’re looking for a good reason for either cTrader or mt4 mt5 and you’re hanging out on the fence there. You’re not really sure which one to go for as you’re submitting your FTMO application.

Personally, I believe there’s one very good reason why you should pick cTrader (See my post on their best features, here) instead of mt4 mt5 , the typical gold standard platforms for day trading any market, but the reason why isn’t gonna be why you think it should be.

Hear me out on this.

What Traders Look for in a Platform

Let’s quickly talk about what people are looking for in a platform.

So you might be looking for things like the ability to program your own strategies using expert advisors, or the ability to set alarms to use a variety of indicators. Now, these are all worthwhile elements of a good platform but something that I think really takes the cake is the ability to easily and intuitively place a trade at any given moment and ensure that your order will be submitted the way you want it to.

Ultimately, we want to make quick orders, especially if you’re a scalper like me or a day trader who is waiting for a very fine and precise moment to enter the trade.

Regardless of what platform you use you’re going to want to have an order form that you are comfortable with and able to use on the spot to put in your stop loss, take profit targets, as well, and you can trust that that order will be placed correctly.

Why Do You Need a Great Order Form?

So why am I focusing on orders?

The reason is that I don’t think you actually need to be deciding on a platform for your FTMO challenge because I don’t think you should be using FTMO‘s platforms.

Instead, I think it’s really useful – and this is true also in professional day trading – to use either your own broker’s charts or a charting software that you trust, such as Trading View, where you’ve done proficient backtesting.

You’re going to want to use another chart for making your decisions for your prop trading orders.

For me, I use Oanda‘s trading charts.

Why cTrader FTMO

It means I’m also using their prices which are relatively close enough to the kinds you’ll find on the FTMO platforms but what’s important for me is that I’ve backtested my mechanical strategy on these charts many, many times and I’m using that data to inform the kinds of risk percent per trade as well as statistical components to help me make decisions as to when, for example, I should maybe stop trading on a challenge and look for a retry if something unusual occurs.

I want to use Oanda‘s charts to figure this out because that’s going to be where that information is consistent.

What I do when I trade with FTMO or any other prop firm is just use their platforms as order forms.

I just want to set up the stop loss, take profit, put in the position size, and set it, forget it. Let it unravel on its own.

This is the reason why I think cTrader is the better option than mt4 mt5 – it’s because their order forms are so intuitive. They let you calculate how much you want to risk on your trade based on your account size. They do the math for you and most importantly they let you select your take profit and your stop loss based on pips – you don’t have to know the price ahead of time.cTrader

It takes out that step of having to measure your trade and figure out the price levels, which is such a boon when you’re a scalper like me and you’re thinking in pips.

Some Downsides to Selecting cTrader

Now, the one downside though to using cTrader is that you can’t use their mobile app for your challenge.

If you want to do more mobile trading you’re going to have to use mt4 mt5. However, mt4 and mt5’s mobile order form is like a risk management nightmare in and of itself. I do use it for my own trading because I’ve grown accustomed to it but I don’t recommend starting out on mobile trading with mt4 or mt5 if you’re just getting started with them for the first time.

As you take your challenge, however, let’s assume you’re able to sit in front of a computer. You’re able to use multiple charts. You can easily set your brokerage’s chart as your analysis chart, if you will, on one screen and use cTrader on the other where you can easily submit orders. The one thing i will recommend though is to be careful of jumping across different currency pairs as those orders will switch – they will go back to some kind of default order such as the last trade you took.

There might be settings to change this, but so far my experience has been to be sure you know what your orders are so that in case you’re jumping around, looking for a pair to trade with, you can change that order form again if it gets clicked out.

The Ideal Set-Up

So here’s the ideal outcome: you signed up for your prop trading challenge you clicked cTrader as your platform of choice. You’re using your brokerage’s charts on one screen and you have c Trader on another. You make your decisions on your own broker’s charts – those were the ones you use to backtest – and you just submit your position size you use your stop loss and take profit to calculate how much you want to risk for this trade. Lastly, you fill out your position size accordingly. They do the math for you right there and when you see the signal to go on your broker’s charts, you submit the order on cTrader and that’s it.

You don’t touch anything else. You don’t use their charts to trade with and it’s a very simple, quick process.

So that’s the number one reason why I suggest cTrader over mt4/mt5 is that you’re not actually going to use them as a platform. Instead, you’re just using them as ordering services where you can set up your trade position very quickly, easily, with the math calculated out for you and get on with your trading day or your day in general.

Overall, I like cTrader. (See my post on their best features, here) They have nice charts. But for the purpose of trading like a professional, I believe it’s best to use prop firm’s platforms only as places where you enter your orders – not where you analyze charts.